Can the tail of benign drift be elicited with a proper score?
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Jointly eliciting VaR and expected shortfall of benign drift: 0-homogeneous Fissler–Ziegel score minimised at (VaR, ES) with profile ln ES, ES alone non-elicitable (mixture 12.5 vs 10), exact regret formulas, ES-understatement of 30% detectable with ~1k samples at τ=0.95 while pinball is blind.
What it found
Verifiers forecast a tolerance threshold (VaR) and the mean drift beyond it (expected shortfall, ES). ES alone is not elicitable (a 50/50 mixture of two ES = 10 laws has ES 12.5), but the 0-homogeneous Fissler–Ziegel score ln e − 1 + (v + (y−v)+/(1−τ))/e is minimised exactly at (VaR, ES), with exact closed-form excess scores matched to 10−10. Pinball loss scores a forecaster with ES off by 30% identically to the truth; the joint score separates them with about 0.6–1.2k samples at τ = 0.9–0.95. Stylised. Follows up property-elicitation-verification.
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